maybe if we need sarah and Douglas to break up maybe instead of Douglas finding the tape and burning it, maybe douglas can walk into to Sarah watching the tape, and we cut away to himm moving into the hotel room that Alice had been living in anyway, and that's when he find's some other stuff that can leadto the sequel...does he continue the work, etc... Fri Jul 13, 08:48:00 AM Dorian said...
It feels like I've seen it before.
What if Sarah is part of the puzzle. Like if Douglas has the blood part maybe she has the bone part or something. Like maybe he finds clues to display that she was sending in bone marrow samples to an undisclosed location for testing. Just like he is sending his in since he has the blood disorder. I like the idea of him finding the stuff for the sequel, I just think it is more powerful with Sarah since their is the love connection and we don't suspect it at all throughout the script.
Alice is a given and we arlready assume somethin is up with her. Fri Jul 13, 08:49:00 AM Dorian said...
I sent this before but wanted it in the blogg for our records. Maybe we can put in in Bleed or another script. I was thinking of a new vampire idea. It's on the server here /DOCS/Scripts/Bleed/notes.
Dextrocardia – Situs Inversus Dextrocardia is a peculiar condition in which the heart is positioned on the right side of the chest while it is normally on the left (mirror-image). The name is derived from dexter in Latin meaning "on the right" and cardio meaning "of the heart". If the rest of the organ systems are reversed, the condition is called situs inversus. Individuals with both dextrocardia and situs inversus suffer a far lesser rate of congenital heart defects than do people with only one of the two conditions. When defibrillating someone with dextrocardia, the pads should be placed in reverse positions. That is, instead of upper right and lower left, pads should be placed upper left and lower right. Situs inversus (also called situs transversus) is a rare congenital condition in which the major visceral organs are reversed or mirrored from their normal positions. The normal arrangement is known as situs solitus. In other rare cases, in a condition known as situs ambiguus or heterotaxy, situs cannot be determined. The term situs inversus is a short form of the Latin phrase "situs inversus viscerum," meaning "inverted position of the internal organs". Dextrocardia (the heart being located on the right side of the thorax) was first recognised by Marco Severino in 1643. However, situs invertus was first described more than a century later by Matthew Baillie. The prevalence of situs inversus varies among different populations but is less than 1 in 10,000 people Effect on anatomy The condition affects all major structures within the thorax and abdomen. Generally, the organs are simply transposed through the sagittal plane. The heart is located on the right side of the thorax, the stomach and spleen on the right side of the abdomen and the liver and gall bladder on the left side. The left lung is trilobed and the right lung bilobed, and blood vessels, nerves, lymphatics and the intestines are also inverted. If the heart is swapped to the right side of the thorax, it is known as situs inversus with dextrocardia or situs inversus totalis. If the heart remains in the normal left side of the thorax, a much rarer condition (1 in 22,000 cases of situs inversus), it is known as situs inversus with levocardia or situs inversus incompletus. Situs inversus with levocardia, or dextrocardia without situs inversus, present much higher rates of congenital defects than situs inversus with dextrocardia http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-dextrocardia.htm Fri Jul 13, 08:53:00 AM Organ Donor Productions said...
Here are those Blood disorder links from a while back.
(note: every blood disorder produces to much or too little of some type of blood component. What if the woman is able to produce excessive amounts of components beyond normal levels and they don’t kill her? As she has figured out how to harness this power to be immune to disease and disorders and she thinks she can pass it along to others.)
www.mayoclinic.org/bloodtransfusion-rst/ reactions.html Fri Jul 13, 09:02:00 AM Michael said...
This post has been removed by the author. Fri Jul 13, 01:27:00 PM Michael said...
I was thinking about Alice's motivations, how it was a little ambiguous because we didn't have a real life reference for her disease yet. but what if she has no diseases. in fact she has never had any disease or been sick in her entire life. what if she's convinced that she has the pure type blood and wants to replicate it in others, essentially making humanity stronger. there are people out there with such strong immune systems that they never get sick. people who are exposed to diseases like HIV or even crazy shit like ebola but aren't affected. Alice could be one of these people. when she was young, she never got sick, but her entire family died from various diseases and viruses. everyone except her. to understand this she starts taking crazy risks, exposing herself to all sorts of fucked up viruses and diseases but she never gets sick. she is overwhelmed with a warped sense of guilt that she has survived and wants to make sure no one else ever has to suffer like her family did, no matter the cost. so she's actually transfusing a mixture own blood into these people, like a serum, then exposing them to a deadly (yet non-airborne) virus to see if they live.
as for the sequel, what if Alice actually gets through part of the transfusion with Douglas, and he finds that he no longer needs any treatment and so he decides to continue the research (though why would he become a serial killer to do so?). Or perhaps what he discovers at the end is Alice's huge supply of her own stored blood and research notes, and it's left open ended as to what he'll do with it.
as for Sarah, her relationship with Douglas already seems so rocky, I don't think we need to worry about an explanation for them to break up here. they can just be broken up in the sequel for any reason we want. Fri Jul 13, 01:32:00 PM D said...
Here are my notes from 6/27/07
Opening Scene • The entire raiding the blood bank needs to go. • For 1 reason is because if we want to shoot it, it will be too expensive. • It seems unanimous that we all like the scene where the girl is in the cage and then wakes up and freaks out. • We also liked it where Douglas was becoming one with the environment. In the pages I wrote this is where he was touching the walls and feeling the energy of the crime scene. This sets him apart from the rest of the cops and also creates an awkwardness about him that is interesting. • Scary Mexican needs to go. o I like this character and he should stay around in the story. o We need another descriptor, I was thinking of the name Bolla or Bane. We can describe him as scary and Mexican but he should have a name.
In between
• Alice feels too weak. She is not conniving enough or smart enough. • I don’t think Douglas should be a bloodologist anymore. I think he should be sickened by the site of it. o He can’t even take his own blood. He has to have his neighbor who is a retired nurse do it for him and just about every time he gets his blood taken he throws up, breaks out in cold sweats or nearly faints. • The script needs to be more gory/bloody. In effort to support this- o What if Alice is just a total psycho case? For instance she is getting so close that it is driving her crazy and she starts getting really sloppy at the end. o This could be indicated in a scene where Douglas is going to a crime scene and he sees a garbage man carrying a bag of garbage and he brushes his shoulder or gives him a look of some sort creating suspicion. The guy is essentially part of the “clean up” crew. The crime scenes are always above and beyond being clean. Too clean. It never makes sense for the ways some of the victims looked. o Maybe the group goes deeper than he can ever imagine. Senators, governors, politicians, presidents and so on. Don’t all of these type of people suffer from a god complex anyways? • Instead of focusing on one person as being the bad guy like every movie does. Let’s focus on the machine behind the evil. Alice sage is just a pawn in the game because of her knowledge of bloodletting.
Sending in the Blood
• What if Douglas’s blood is in the evolutionary state for the perfect human? o He sends in his blood every week to a doctor. o They send him medication for his disorder. Could be his blood is like water. It is missing the glucose proximity and plasma that develops healthy blood. Because of that lack of this substance his blood doesn’t stay thick or together it simply breaks apart. Causing him to be super weak and be hooked up to dialysis for life. o Truth of the matter is that he is and was the perfect candidate for the blood component. o In his medication they are testing out formulas that will create the perfect blood strain. o His so called neighbor who is the retired RN is part of the group.
End Scene
• The entire scene doesn’t seem to work. o At this point the tape doesn’t really hold much significance and its power is lost. o There are much bigger things at stake such as what will he do with his new knowledge. Will he carry on the legacy? o I don’t think he should stay with the nurse. If there is a sequel and he plays the hero, he is best to be alone. • What if we find out that Alice wasn’t alone? What is there is an entire society/group that follows this path? • What if at the end instead of mailing him the tape she mails him something indicating that she was not the sole creator. Fri Jul 13, 02:14:00 PM Organ Donor Productions said...
Okay, I like the vials of blood but that is just a small part of it. There needs to be more. If everyone is a piece of the puzzle and Alice was as well and there was a connection between them, which holds more weight. I think Alice needs and wants to expose them. What if as part of her will she left all of the exposing material to Douglas? Since he is the missing link and she does die by Douglas's hand he gets all that info.
I am opposed to starting with Alice and all the being immune to disease. 1. Because of Zee in Level and we will have to go into her backstory. We just need to stay away from little girls with this one. 2. It feels like unbreakable & I am legend if you read that book (which is the new Will Smith vampire movie).
This script needs to be smart, real smart. Calculating and throught out. On the surface everything up to now is way to predicable. So we need to change that. What haven't we seen in movies thus far? What do we want to see? I don't care how huge something is or how much it cost to make. Plain and simple it just needs to be good and different and give you that jaw dropping feeling like at the end of Saw when the guy was in the room the entire time.
But thus far this is real good. Let's keep jamming. Fri Jul 13, 02:27:00 PM Dorian said...
Hey everyone,
I've been chewing over this idea for a while and maybe we don't use it for this script but maybe in the future.
The idea I was thinking of what if we create an idea, story, ideology that is an ongoing project. What I mean is with technology, devices, etc getting cheaper, more integrated and more accessible what if we develop a story that we constantly produce. We can say we write, direct, shoot and edit something every 2 weeks or whatever we decide on and then publish it to the web. We can then push it to mobile, develop a database for users, forums for user feedback and if we get enough users we can get advertisers.
I just feel that since it will take most likely a long time to do something big why not do something big right now incrementally?
It could be endless; it could have action, drama, horror or whatever. Everything everyone likes so we touch on each genre. When we get sick of it we switch it up. I know, it is a huge commitment, but if it is good and gets out there it can be successful.
1 Comments:
Dan said...
maybe if we need sarah and Douglas to break up maybe instead of Douglas finding the tape and burning it, maybe douglas can walk into to Sarah watching the tape, and we cut away to himm moving into the hotel room that Alice had been living in anyway, and that's when he find's some other stuff that can leadto the sequel...does he continue the work, etc...
Fri Jul 13, 08:48:00 AM
Dorian said...
It feels like I've seen it before.
What if Sarah is part of the puzzle. Like if Douglas has the blood part maybe she has the bone part or something. Like maybe he finds clues to display that she was sending in bone marrow samples to an undisclosed location for testing. Just like he is sending his in since he has the blood disorder. I like the idea of him finding the stuff for the sequel, I just think it is more powerful with Sarah since their is the love connection and we don't suspect it at all throughout the script.
Alice is a given and we arlready assume somethin is up with her.
Fri Jul 13, 08:49:00 AM
Dorian said...
I sent this before but wanted it in the blogg for our records. Maybe we can put in in Bleed or another script. I was thinking of a new vampire idea. It's on the server here /DOCS/Scripts/Bleed/notes.
Dextrocardia – Situs Inversus
Dextrocardia is a peculiar condition in which the heart is positioned on the right side of the chest while it is normally on the left (mirror-image). The name is derived from dexter in Latin meaning "on the right" and cardio meaning "of the heart".
If the rest of the organ systems are reversed, the condition is called situs inversus. Individuals with both dextrocardia and situs inversus suffer a far lesser rate of congenital heart defects than do people with only one of the two conditions.
When defibrillating someone with dextrocardia, the pads should be placed in reverse positions. That is, instead of upper right and lower left, pads should be placed upper left and lower right.
Situs inversus (also called situs transversus) is a rare congenital condition in which the major visceral organs are reversed or mirrored from their normal positions. The normal arrangement is known as situs solitus. In other rare cases, in a condition known as situs ambiguus or heterotaxy, situs cannot be determined.
The term situs inversus is a short form of the Latin phrase "situs inversus viscerum," meaning "inverted position of the internal organs". Dextrocardia (the heart being located on the right side of the thorax) was first recognised by Marco Severino in 1643. However, situs invertus was first described more than a century later by Matthew Baillie.
The prevalence of situs inversus varies among different populations but is less than 1 in 10,000 people
Effect on anatomy
The condition affects all major structures within the thorax and abdomen. Generally, the organs are simply transposed through the sagittal plane. The heart is located on the right side of the thorax, the stomach and spleen on the right side of the abdomen and the liver and gall bladder on the left side. The left lung is trilobed and the right lung bilobed, and blood vessels, nerves, lymphatics and the intestines are also inverted.
If the heart is swapped to the right side of the thorax, it is known as situs inversus with dextrocardia or situs inversus totalis. If the heart remains in the normal left side of the thorax, a much rarer condition (1 in 22,000 cases of situs inversus), it is known as situs inversus with levocardia or situs inversus incompletus. Situs inversus with levocardia, or dextrocardia without situs inversus, present much higher rates of congenital defects than situs inversus with dextrocardia
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-dextrocardia.htm
Fri Jul 13, 08:53:00 AM
Organ Donor Productions said...
Here are those Blood disorder links from a while back.
Hemoglobin
www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/
analytes/hemoglobin_var/glance.html
RH incompatibility
http://kidshealth.org/parent/pregnancy_newborn/
pregnancy/rh.html
Blood Disorders
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/
bloodandblooddisorders.html
(note: every blood disorder produces to much or too little of some type of blood component. What if the woman is able to produce excessive amounts of components beyond normal levels and they don’t kill her? As she has figured out how to harness this power to be immune to disease and disorders and she thinks she can pass it along to others.)
www.mayoclinic.org/bloodtransfusion-rst/
reactions.html
Fri Jul 13, 09:02:00 AM
Michael said...
This post has been removed by the author.
Fri Jul 13, 01:27:00 PM
Michael said...
I was thinking about Alice's motivations, how it was a little ambiguous because we didn't have a real life reference for her disease yet. but what if she has no diseases. in fact she has never had any disease or been sick in her entire life. what if she's convinced that she has the pure type blood and wants to replicate it in others, essentially making humanity stronger.
there are people out there with such strong immune systems that they never get sick. people who are exposed to diseases like HIV or even crazy shit like ebola but aren't affected. Alice could be one of these people. when she was young, she never got sick, but her entire family died from various diseases and viruses. everyone except her. to understand this she starts taking crazy risks, exposing herself to all sorts of fucked up viruses and diseases but she never gets sick. she is overwhelmed with a warped sense of guilt that she has survived and wants to make sure no one else ever has to suffer like her family did, no matter the cost. so she's actually transfusing a mixture own blood into these people, like a serum, then exposing them to a deadly (yet non-airborne) virus to see if they live.
as for the sequel, what if Alice actually gets through part of the transfusion with Douglas, and he finds that he no longer needs any treatment and so he decides to continue the research (though why would he become a serial killer to do so?). Or perhaps what he discovers at the end is Alice's huge supply of her own stored blood and research notes, and it's left open ended as to what he'll do with it.
as for Sarah, her relationship with Douglas already seems so rocky, I don't think we need to worry about an explanation for them to break up here. they can just be broken up in the sequel for any reason we want.
Fri Jul 13, 01:32:00 PM
D said...
Here are my notes from 6/27/07
Opening Scene
• The entire raiding the blood bank needs to go.
• For 1 reason is because if we want to shoot it, it will be too expensive.
• It seems unanimous that we all like the scene where the girl is in the cage and then wakes up and freaks out.
• We also liked it where Douglas was becoming one with the environment. In the pages I wrote this is where he was touching the walls and feeling the energy of the crime scene. This sets him apart from the rest of the cops and also creates an awkwardness about him that is interesting.
• Scary Mexican needs to go.
o I like this character and he should stay around in the story.
o We need another descriptor, I was thinking of the name Bolla or Bane. We can describe him as scary and Mexican but he should have a name.
In between
• Alice feels too weak. She is not conniving enough or smart enough.
• I don’t think Douglas should be a bloodologist anymore. I think he should be sickened by the site of it.
o He can’t even take his own blood. He has to have his neighbor who is a retired nurse do it for him and just about every time he gets his blood taken he throws up, breaks out in cold sweats or nearly faints.
• The script needs to be more gory/bloody. In effort to support this-
o What if Alice is just a total psycho case? For instance she is getting so close that it is driving her crazy and she starts getting really sloppy at the end.
o This could be indicated in a scene where Douglas is going to a crime scene and he sees a garbage man carrying a bag of garbage and he brushes his shoulder or gives him a look of some sort creating suspicion.
The guy is essentially part of the “clean up” crew.
The crime scenes are always above and beyond being clean. Too clean. It never makes sense for the ways some of the victims looked.
o Maybe the group goes deeper than he can ever imagine. Senators, governors, politicians, presidents and so on. Don’t all of these type of people suffer from a god complex anyways?
• Instead of focusing on one person as being the bad guy like every movie does. Let’s focus on the machine behind the evil. Alice sage is just a pawn in the game because of her knowledge of bloodletting.
Sending in the Blood
• What if Douglas’s blood is in the evolutionary state for the perfect human?
o He sends in his blood every week to a doctor.
o They send him medication for his disorder. Could be his blood is like water. It is missing the glucose proximity and plasma that develops healthy blood. Because of that lack of this substance his blood doesn’t stay thick or together it simply breaks apart. Causing him to be super weak and be hooked up to dialysis for life.
o Truth of the matter is that he is and was the perfect candidate for the blood component.
o In his medication they are testing out formulas that will create the perfect blood strain.
o His so called neighbor who is the retired RN is part of the group.
End Scene
• The entire scene doesn’t seem to work.
o At this point the tape doesn’t really hold much significance and its power is lost.
o There are much bigger things at stake such as what will he do with his new knowledge.
Will he carry on the legacy?
o I don’t think he should stay with the nurse. If there is a sequel and he plays the hero, he is best to be alone.
• What if we find out that Alice wasn’t alone? What is there is an entire society/group that follows this path?
• What if at the end instead of mailing him the tape she mails him something indicating that she was not the sole creator.
Fri Jul 13, 02:14:00 PM
Organ Donor Productions said...
Okay, I like the vials of blood but that is just a small part of it. There needs to be more. If everyone is a piece of the puzzle and Alice was as well and there was a connection between them, which holds more weight. I think Alice needs and wants to expose them. What if as part of her will she left all of the exposing material to Douglas? Since he is the missing link and she does die by Douglas's hand he gets all that info.
I am opposed to starting with Alice and all the being immune to disease. 1. Because of Zee in Level and we will have to go into her backstory. We just need to stay away from little girls with this one. 2. It feels like unbreakable & I am legend if you read that book (which is the new Will Smith vampire movie).
This script needs to be smart, real smart. Calculating and throught out. On the surface everything up to now is way to predicable. So we need to change that. What haven't we seen in movies thus far? What do we want to see? I don't care how huge something is or how much it cost to make. Plain and simple it just needs to be good and different and give you that jaw dropping feeling like at the end of Saw when the guy was in the room the entire time.
But thus far this is real good. Let's keep jamming.
Fri Jul 13, 02:27:00 PM
Dorian said...
Hey everyone,
I've been chewing over this idea for a while and maybe we don't use it for this script but maybe in the future.
The idea I was thinking of what if we create an idea, story, ideology that is an ongoing project. What I mean is with technology, devices, etc getting cheaper, more integrated and more accessible what if we develop a story that we constantly produce. We can say we write, direct, shoot and edit something every 2 weeks or whatever we decide on and then publish it to the web. We can then push it to mobile, develop a database for users, forums for user feedback and if we get enough users we can get advertisers.
I just feel that since it will take most likely a long time to do something big why not do something big right now incrementally?
It could be endless; it could have action, drama, horror or whatever. Everything everyone likes so we touch on each genre. When we get sick of it we switch it up. I know, it is a huge commitment, but if it is good and gets out there it can be successful.
Let me know your thoughts.
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